Some forty-five years ago, or so, when I resided in Southern California for about 8 years and witnessed the mentality, the beliefs, the attitudes, and actions of many people I was around in my work and social life I came to the conclusion then that there was coming a day, and not that far into America’s future, the future of the world that the people would not only approve of homosexual marriage they would push it, celebrate it as some great social movement forward.

When I voiced my observations and deductions based on those to folks I knew and worked with I was resoundingly mocked, belittled, ridiculed, and have people burst into laughter in my face. Telling me I was nuts. It would never happen. Never happen.

Let’s open our eyes and wake up in the present. And where are we?

I’m not a prophet. At the time I was living in the Los Angeles area I wasn’t a transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, renewed of mind, and spirit disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ. I was a full-blown in and of the world massive sinner. But I saw and knew what was coming. It was as clear to me as the sky was once driving about 200 miles out of the city of L.A.

To those finding themselves in this place now there are two articles below my prefacing comments. About a topic people 15, 20 years ago thought would never arise. Never become possible. The numb, lost, in their own world, deluded, complacent, ignorant, comfortable “It can’t happen here!” folks. Of which there are many. Billions truth be told.

There are very few watchmen on the wall, Very few observers that can read the times and are unafraid to speak or write about what is unfolding right before everyone’s blinded eyes, deaf ears, and cold hearts not attuned to the evil that abounds and wrestles in a vain attempt to dominate.

I’ve read The Book, and I believe every word in the Holy Bible. I know how it all ends and evil and all those who abide in it, wallow in it, those who refuse the Way, the Life, the Light, and the Truth lose. They not only lose they perish in what will be the most horrific eternity beyond anyone’s imagination. And eternity is a long, long, LONG time, folks. Really long time.

Most people today refuse to see or believe what is taking place right before them. imagining they know how things will go — and things such as incest becoming approved of could never take place, right? You’ll read some examples in the articles below, such as an attorney in Manhatten that exclaims that incest “is never going to fly.” It already is. Pay attention people! Stop being complacent. Stop vainly imagining happy days are here again, after this pandemic passes — which it is here with us until the end now dear ones in one form or another, and this is only part of what is coming to contend with.

You’ll come upon a very good C.H. Chesterton quote in one of the articles below about once a fence is taken down.

Once a door is opened, once the lid of a box is removed there is no going back. Ever. What is released cannot be contained and removed as if it never was permitted to enter in. And we have permitted every vile perversion, corruption, sin, and evil under the sun to enter in. We’ve opened the door, taken down the fence to everything that goes against the Word of God.

And we not only have done this. We now APPROVE of these things. We celebrate them, revel in them, applaud them, push them, elevate them. Make them of uppermost importance.

Many wrote and said when the U.S. Supreme Court OPINION — remember the Supreme Court only offers up OPINIONS and does NOT make legally binding DECISIONS although the people in ignorance treat the OPINIONS of the court as if they are legally binding decisions. The court offers up an opinion and then it is up to the people, the states to do what they will with that OPINION. If you do not believe this I hope you’ll take the time to do your own research and learn this fact of how our government was designed to work and how it has become corrupted and the people are so misled. And, for example, the people have based an OPINION making it the law of the land that murdering children is permissible. To the tune of over 60,000,000 so far and counting. Yet no such law is on a law book anywhere. It was and remains all founded on the opinions of a few. And now over 60,000,000 premeditated murders have been permitted and approved of by the people of this land.

What’s the point? Why even write this, add these articles to ACP?

When the Supreme Court passed down their opinion that “same-sex marriage” was permissible and ought to be allowed, in the Obergefell v Hodges opinion of June 26th, 2015 many disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ spoke up, wrote things, how this threw open the door for every abomination under the sun to be eventually permitted. And the minions, the ministers of the Evil One shouted down every voice declaring such times lie ahead for our nation. They protested that polygamy, incest, and every deviant, vile, against God and nature coupling and relationship would never happen. It would stop here, with homosexuals being allowed to marry. We were satisfied. Sorry, but evil, Satan and his ministers never rest. Never sleep. Never are satiated. To listen to such a lie is to be beguiled and seduced by evil. Do not fall prey. Evil is never satisfied. Will never stop. Until such is the time the Lord Jesus Christ sets His foot once more on the Mount of Olives and defeats all sin, defeats death, and takes His place in His Kingdom.

And the people in their numbness, their dumbness, their complacency, their self-absorption, and refusal to pay attention, to understand the times, to be fluent in the word of God like a Berean, they shrugged, if they did anything at all. And if they thought of it at all in their darkened conditioned by the world minds, “Oh, incest, polygamy, all these scary things these nutty Christian writers and speakers are saying will never happen! Not here! Ever!”

Those things will never fly.

Really?

Well, don’t look up dear ones, but they are not only in flight they are dropping their excrement all over the people below. Infecting and corrupting every institution, corporation, agency, and aspect of life today. And more and more in a growing number of so-called Christian denominations and churches.

I cannot help but remind people we are living in the Biblical times of http://Romans 1. The people have already been given over to reprobate, wicked, sinful minds by God for our disobedience, our loving evil more than righteousness, our serving sin and Satan more than serving Jesus, God the Father, the Holy Spirit and obeying and living according to the inerrant, infallible, active and living word of God!

Judgment is coming.

We are living in Biblical times. Why won’t people acknowledge this? And I’m directing this to many professed Christians. They go about on auto-pilot. As if the Bible is not a living book. As if it only presents past history and nice ideas — and they do not appear to believe the Holy Bible is THE ONLY BOOK to present not only accurate past history but PRESENT and FUTURE history as well. Everything else under the sun appearing a greater priority. An idol, in truth, to them rather than the pursuit of God, living as a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ, placing all their faith in the power of the Holy Spirit to guide them, instruct them, lift them, show them the way, keep them no matter what. What do they truly believe in then? If not the whole of Scripture?

Why are so many lax, complacent, lying down slumbering? Why won’t they put on, keep on, maintain and live in http://the whole armour of God?

We’re at war folks. We’re in an ever-escalating spiritual war. The most important, longest in duration, taking the most casualties war of all wars. And we act as if once this pandemic abates it’ll be “back to normal” and happy days are here again, and we can get on with all the banality, the lost in a fog, the idol worship, the self-absorption, and giving God, Jesus, the Holy Spirit, and the Bible short shift. Thinking if we show up in a church, half-heartedly sing some songs of praise, bow our heads when prayers are offered up we’re in like flint. We’ve earned our gold star and are set for the week.

When we are so very, very weak.

And the Enemy is strong and has legions bound in chains going to their eternal death serving him.

And we are on auto-pilot. In our complacency, our banality, our focusing on nationalism, politics, money, our 401Ks, getting the kids to soccer practice, and getting caught up in the whirlwind, the vortex of life removed from God although we profess otherwise.

Where are the soldiers for Christ? Where are those fully engaged, aware, knowing the battle we’re in? Where are we in fighting the darkness, the father of lies, and those he has ensnared? Too many all comfy cozy in their robes, jammies, and slippers perched in front of the glowing screens keeping them numb and otherwise entertained and occupied.

And, in order to get clear, to come to a working understanding and be effective? We need to heed http://the words of the apostle Peter and have the judgment begin with us. With the church.

Which has failed miserably in living Biblically and teaching Biblically. Rather preferring to appease, please the world and its doctrines, philosophies, and ways thinking vainly and in grave error that somehow we could add to, remove from the Word of God and everything would be okay. Peachy keen. No consequences for our sin in doing such a thing.

Does anyone think any longer? Really think? Think things through? Ponder? Meditate on the word? Take the time to THINK! And think things through?

Below you’ll come across something called Second-order thinking. It’s what everyone ought to do at all times in all things. THINK of the CONSEQUENCES. Yet who and how many are doing that sort of thinking? It’s a free for all. Anything goes. Mindless reactionaries. Living for the moment. For the lie of “feeling good” and for self above all else.

See where that lack of thinking well lands you my friend.

Any abomination and sin and thing under the sun now approved of, elevated, pushed, and exhorted!

Even incest.

The door has been thrown open. Bashed in. By the lovers of sin and evil. Having been given over to reprobate, wicked, unrighteous minds.

Things are only going to get worse from now on. Not better. Do not deceive yourself. Do not place so much weight on the end of the pandemic and the return to normalcy. Nothing was normal prior to COVID-19 becoming known. It’s just the people were numb and on auto-pilot and so self-absorbed.

This pandemic has hopefully stirred up, shaken, awakened those professed believers, those true disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ to get up, stand boldly, firmly in the Word. No matter what. To profess the faith. To be the light of the world. Not hidden. The salt of the earth. Not fearing rejection or persecution. But to do the work of the Lord as He commissioned each of us. To spread the Gospel — that is the knowledge of Jesus Christ — to others. To all people. Throughout the world. Even our next-door neighbor. Even that Roman Catholic relative or friend. Even that grumpy co-worker that always takes the last cup of coffee from the coffeemaker, or that donut you had your eyes on. Even them.

Do not fear. Do not become despondent, dejected, or apprehensive either. Do not fear rejection or persecution. Do not remain complacent and on auto-pilot imagining doing what you’ve been doing is satisfactory. For the times they have already changed, and they will be a changin’ even more so. Bob Dylan saw it. Why can’t those professing faith in Christ see it and then act accordingly? Now is the time to become stronger in the Word. More confident and secure in the Word and the faith. To enjoin the battle. To realize the spiritual war everyone is in. There are no bystanders. This is not a spectator sport. Everyone is enlisted on one side or the other. And there are only two sides. No others. Nowhere to hide. Nowhere to run or sit it all out.

We’re either believing and living Biblically or we’re coasting. Pretending. Going through the motions.

And the evidence of the Church gone awry? Amiss? Homosexual marriage is now taking place throughout our land. Each day children are being murdered premeditatedly. False teachers and unsound doctrines have infiltrated and grown like cancer in the so-called Chrisitan churches, incest, polygamy, and every evil under the sun are not only being discussed but APPROVED OF!

And we’re not living in the Biblical times of http://Romans 1? The people have not been given over to reprobate minds due to their love of sin and wickedness?

Really? What then people? What are these times then?

The time is short dear ones. Wake up, folks! Smell the stench of evil in the air! There is a lot less time ahead than behind. And we each need to not only increase in the strength and faith and direction of our individual prayer life. We need to also increase in corporate prayer, in Bible study, in furthering the community of believers in each church where the Holy Spirit is living and found. And pray the Holy Spirit is summoned, awakened, sought after in those pastors, preachers, ministers, churches, and places where apostasy and so much false teachings has taken place and been permitted.

Enough of this, “Well our time is up, we don’t have any more time for this, too bad we don’t have time to cover or discuss this further.” Take the time. Make the time. Don’t be led by a clock but by the Word of God and the Holy Spirit. Do you think Jesus, Paul, any prophet or apostle or disciple said, “Oh, look at the time, our hour is up, we can’t go any further, it’s lunchtime you know, the game is coming on soon! Gotta run!?” Did that ever happen? Why is it that is all that happens now?

The overwhelming majority of individuals daily and nightly, and I address this to believers, are consumed in other matters than dwelling on, discussing, study upon, prayer upon the ways and Word of God. Of being a disciple of the Lord Jesus Christ increasing in faith, in the Word, in confidence to stand boldly in the times at hand. In spending time with like-minded fellow believers uplifting, helping, being with each other. No time for that. But plenty of time for every other pursuit, eh?

Okay, let’s see how the Lord Jesus listens to our excuses regarding how we spent our time when we are prone and trembling before Him. We need not be trembling. It is up to each of us. How do we each spend our time? Why do we not seek out each other more? Seek out the Word more? Seek out fervent prayer more?

Isn’t about time we begin to make time and get our priorities straight? And stop giving lip service and begin giving true hearts aflame service to the Lord? To each other? To then be that light unto the world.

 

Woe unto them that call evil good, and good evil; that put darkness for light, and light for darkness; that put bitter for sweet, and sweet for bitter!

Isaiah 5:20 — King James Version

 

The one who rejects me and doesn’t receive my sayings has this as his judge: The word I have spoken will judge him on the last day.

John 12:48 — Christian Standard Bible

 

The times of ignorance God overlooked, but now he commands all people everywhere to repent, because he has fixed a day on which he will judge the world in righteousness by a man whom he has appointed; and of this he has given assurance to all by raising him from the dead.”

Acts 17:30-31 — English Standard Version

 

As the apostle Paul addressed the men of Athens in their exceeding idol worship, they’re always seeking new things, never being settled, never secure, always seeking something else for fulfillment, pleasure, vainly imagining the answer lie in the next thing sought and said or written by a man — the time of ignorance is over. That ended with Jesus on earth, fully God, fully man, living, and teaching. Dying and shedding His precious blood for the sin of any and all who would believe upon Him, and then conquering death, the only person to ever do so, and being resurrected by God from the dead. Ignorance, excuses ended then. And judgment is coming. To everyone.

And let’s stop hesitating and balking at speaking of judgment. Hesitating and balking at speaking the truth of the Word of God.

Where are our hearts and minds? Our belief? Our confidence? What is the worst that can happen in telling a person walking in darkness, refusing the truth, ensnared in the world the truth of the gospel? The truth of the Word of God? They may swear at us? They may mock us, laugh at us, turn away from us? They may not want anything to do with us? So be it. Plant the seed. Be the light. Have faith in the Holy Spirit to work in that person if it is God’s will. Otherwise? Let their blood be upon them. they then have no excuse. Shake your garments of their dust and move on. There are plenty in the field to be harvested for the Lord. Plenty of broken hearts, broken lives, sinners. Like us. Sinners just as we were and still are dear friends.

We are not here to please and appease people. We are here to obey God our Father and live Biblically as disciples of the Lord Jesus Christ. Our priorities must be heavenly. The things of God and His Son, His Word, and His Spirit.

Why fear Christian? Have we not learned anything from the life of Jesus, the life of apostles such as Paul, of the lives of the prophets? Can we not read the signs like the Pharisees were unable — unwilling to do in their blindness, being the whited sepulchers they were?

There is no new thing under the sun. The only thing that has changed throughout history is that with man and woman is disobedience eating of the tree of knowledge, knowledge has increased throughout time. Knowledge increasing has permitted technology to develop and increase. That’s all that has ever changed. Nothing else. Do not be so misled to think we’re so different than any people who came before us. Ever. We are just like the folks in Babylon, Tyre, Sidon, Jerusalem, Corinth, Thessalonica, and every place at every time in history. We’re no different. Other than our knowledge increasing and thus our technological developments based on our increase in knowledge. That’s all. We’re not BETTER then any people who came before us.

But the heart, the mind, the soul, the spirit of man is no different this very day than it was in the hearts and minds of Adam and Eve, of Cain and Abel, of every person in the Bible, of every person who has ever lived, now lives, or is yet to be born.

HUMAN NATURE has not changed one iota and human nature will not ever change. The hearts, the vain imaginings, the evil within man will never be changed. Therefore Christ, God, the Holy Spirit, the inerrant and infallible word of God is needed. In every life possible. Only the power of the Spirit of God can work in a human heart, a human spirit, a human mind to change it. Transform it. Renew it.

Only knowledge and thus technology have changed. Giving the illusion, the deception that those in the present are so different from those who preceded them.

That errant belief has been thought of by every generation when they were alive in their present time.

There is no new thing under the sun dear friends. Only an increasing of evil and its acceptance, its elevation, its celebration its APPROVAL and the times grow eviler.

Is it any wonder the question is put forth when the Lord returns will He find faith on the earth? And we’re told were it not for the shortening of the days even the elect would be lost.

Those days, these times are upon us dear ones. Wake up. Stand up. Be aware. Pray for increased faith and spiritual strength in the Word, in God, in Jesus, in the Holy Spirit.

Put on, maintain, and never remove http://the whole armour of God!

For the battle rages and increases all around us. And we are to be soldiers for the Lord. No one is a conscientious objector, a spectator in this war.

There is no sitting this one out my friends.

Do not grow weary. Ask the Lord, ask the Holy Spirit for strength, for faith, for endurance in all things. And believe that strength and endurance will be given.

Let us not be consumed of and by the world, but let us consume the world with the words of truth, the words of the Way, the Life, and the Light casting out the darkness. As ambassadors of Christ. As His disciples following our great commission.

What else is there really dear ones? Really…in these times…in any time.

I hear people bemoan and complain about all that is transpiring. But do you know how matters got to be as they are? Because we allowed them to become as they are. We stopped reproving, admonishing, we grew afraid of speaking boldly and truthfully in the Word. We sought instead to please people. To attempt to fill the pews, and thus the collection plates with words that tickled their itching ears and made them “feel good” rather than speaking Biblical truths to folks. We remained silent in the truth and enjoined the world. Exactly the opposite of what we are instructed to do.

Why is homosexual marriage now permitted and approved of? The premeditated murder of millions of children? Now the push for incest and polygamy to become the law and way of the land? And the laws becoming lawlessness, and false teaching and teachers dominating in so-called Christian churches? We have allowed it. We have sat idle. Otherwise occupied. Doubting things would get as they are in our time.

Why have we thought this way? Why have we NOT taken the time, made the effort TO THINK!?

Due to our negligence. Our complacency. Our being otherwise occupied and on auto-pilot. Our refusing to think, to watch, to speak out and speak up, to stand boldly. We preach, speak, study, and write of the apostle Paul as if he is some fictional character in a novel. We do the same with Jesus.

Why?

Do we not realize the living examples given before us? Are we so otherwise occupied, confused, and lost as to not get it that we need to follow their examples more than those we have clung to?

We seek and demand comfort, things remaining the same, things pleasing us.

Where are we when it comes to living for and pleasing God? Living for and pleasing the Lord Jesus Christ? Hearing and obeying the Holy Spirit?

The world increases in sin and evil because the disciples of Christ are on break. Refusing to do the heavy lifting. Refusing to hear rejection. Find persecution and discomfort.

I suggest on your own you seek out and learn what Jesus has to say about those of us partaking in such a way of life.

“No, no way! Incest will never fly here! It can’t happen!”

Right.

It is. It will. And much more to come. To the degree the faith of many will be shaken.

Do not be counted in that number. Do not be deceived. Do not weaken no matter your age or physical circumstance. The infinite power and work of the Lord can and will overcome all.

Just have faith dear ones, just have faith and a growing, large, deep prayer life, a life diving deeply into the life-giving waters of the Word of God.

For the days are growing more evil by the hour.

And do not sit idle waiting for happy days, let the good times roll, oh we’re back to normal again!

It ain’t happening. And normal was never right or good to begin with. Can you now see that?

Now what to do dear professed believer, what to do…?

 

Ken Pullen

Tuesday, April 13th, 2021

ACP — A Crooked Path

 

‘Individual Autonomy’: Parent Seeking To Marry Adult Child Sues To Overturn NY Anti-Incest Laws

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Why Can’t a Parent Marry Their Adult Child?

 

 

‘Individual Autonomy’: Parent Seeking To Marry Adult Child Sues To Overturn NY Anti-Incest Laws

 

April 12, 2021

By Jon Brown

Reprinted from The Daily Wire

 

A parent who wants to marry his or her adult child is suing to overturn New York’s laws against incest for the sake of “individual autonomy.”

The person who filed the lawsuit chose to remain anonymous because they seek the legal right to “an action that a large segment of society views as morally, socially and biologically repugnant,” according to court papers filed earlier this month in Manhattan Federal Court and obtained by the New York Post.

“Through the enduring bond of marriage, two persons, whatever relationship they might otherwise have with one another, can find a greater level of expression, intimacy and spirituality,” the parent further argued.

The filing, which is intentionally vague regarding the parties involved, specified that “the proposed spouses” are adults, a biological parent and child, and unable to procreate together.

As the New York Post further reported:

The parent wants to walk down the aisle in New York City, and is asking a judge to declare the laws unconstitutional and unenforceable in their case, which the lawsuit dubs “PAACNP” for “Parent and Adult Child Non-Procreationable” couples.

“Parent-and-adult-child couples for whom procreation is either virtually or literally impossible can aspire to the transcendent purposes of marriage and seek fulfillment in its highest meaning,” the forebear argues, claiming it would “diminish their humanity” if they were unable to tie the knot with the kid they conceived.

Incest is a third-degree felony in New York and punishable with up to four years in prison. Incestuous marriages are considered void and potentially subject to a fine and jail time.

Eric Wrubel, who is a family and matrimonial law attorney in Manhattan, doubts incest will ever catch on culturally, telling the Post, “It’s never gonna fly.”

“The closest you can come is Woody Allen, and that wasn’t his daughter, it was an adopted child whom he never adopted and it still turns people’s stomachs,” Wrubel added.

Even so, some far-left publications have dared to wade into normalizing sexual deviancy such as pedophilia and incest. As The Daily Wire’s Amanda Prestigiacomo commented back in 2016:

The Leftist media’s crusade to strip away stigmas from all damaging behavior has hit new lows over the last year; first Salon heinously tried to normalize pedophilia and now The Telegraph is doing the same with incest.

The Leftist publication argues that feelings of “Genetic Sexual Attraction” (GSA) are actually quite “normal” and should not be judged. Above all else, we must be tolerant — the Left’s only “moral” standard.

The Telegraph’s Charlotte Gill exploits the recent disturbing tabloid “relationship” between Kim West, a 51-year-old and her son. West initially gave up her son for adoption but upon reuniting 30 years later, her “motherly love” took a nosedive into the deep end: The couple “fell in love” and are now looking to get marriage and have children.

RelatedThe Latest Media Push: INCEST. Seriously.

 

Why Can’t a Parent Marry Their Adult Child?

 

April 12, 2021

By Michael L. Brown

Reprinted from ASKDRBrown

 

On April 5, 2007, Time Magazine asked the question, “Should Incest Be Legal?” Three years later, when Columbia University professor David Epstein was arrested for a three-year, consensual affair with his adult daughter, his attorney noted, “It’s OK for homosexuals to do whatever they want in their own home. How is this so different? We have to figure out why some behavior is tolerated and some is not.” Not surprisingly, some Columbia students asked why any sexual acts committed by consenting adults should be considered a crime.

Today, that question is being asked again, this time in the context of a lawsuit reported by the New York Post on April 10. Specifically, “A New Yorker who wants to marry their own adult offspring is suing to overturn laws barring the incestuous practice, calling it a matter of ‘individual autonomy.’”

They argue that, “‘Through the enduring bond of marriage, two persons, whatever relationship they might otherwise have with one another, can find a greater level of expression, intimacy and spirituality,’ the parent argues in the Manhattan Federal Court claim filed April 1.”

Really now, in light of the prevailing logic that love is love, since this is consensual and between adults, why not?

One immediate answer, aside from the obvious revulsion and horror which quite naturally greets this request for “marriage,” is that it is biologically dangerous. Any children produced as a result of this union could have serious genetic issues.

In this case, however, we are told that this is not an issue. According to the filing, “The proposed spouses are adults. The proposed spouses are biological parent and child. The proposed spouses are unable to procreate together.” The lawsuit even uses the acronym “PAACNP,” standing for “Parent and Adult Child Non-Procreationable.”

So, this would either refer to a same-sex parent and child who cannot, therefore, procreate, or to an opposite sex parent and child, one or both of whom is unable to procreate because of age or biological problems. Why say no to them?

As their argument goes, “Parent-and-adult-child couples for whom procreation is either virtually or literally impossible can aspire to the transcendent purposes of marriage and seek fulfillment in its highest meaning.”

Indeed, they claim that it would “diminish their humanity” if they were unable to marry. Why would anyone want to do something so cruel to them? Wasn’t it diminishing to the humanity of homosexuals to forbid them the ability to “marry”? (For those who are unfamiliar with my own views, I’m simply playing the devil’s advocate here.)

After all, who are we to tell people who they can and cannot love? Haven’t we been told that love is love? That love wins? That we have the right to marry the one (or ones) we love? Why draw the line here?

For some years, I have been documenting the increasing acceptance of adult, consensual incest in our culture, including these articles:

Here Comes Incest, Just as Predicted” – posted September 14, 2012, with documentation going back to 2007 and including reference to GSA (Genetic Sexual Attraction) along with actual cases in the courts in other countries.

Next stop on slippery slope: Incest” – posted July 23, 2014, adding a surprising statement from a judge in Australia along with the latest celebration of incest in pop culture.

Why Can’t Two Homosexual Brothers Marry?” – posted October 27, 2015, citing a pro-incest argument from a gay politician in Ireland.

Legalizing adult incest — here we go again” – posted January 27, 2016, including further cultural updates.

In my 2015 book, Outlasting the Gay Revolution, I also cited the latest examples of the media’s celebration of adult consensual incest.

So, again, sadly and tragically, all this is nothing new. The slippery slope is very real.

In this light, it is worth revisiting the opening paragraphs of the Time article from 2007: “When the Supreme Court struck down Texas’s law against sodomy in the summer of 2003, in the landmark gay rights case of Lawrence v. Texas, critics warned that its sweeping support of a powerful doctrine of privacy could lead to challenges of state laws that forbade such things as gay marriage and bigamy. ‘State laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality, and obscenity are … called into question by today’s decision,’ wrote Justice Antonin Scalia, in a withering dissent he read aloud page by page from the bench.

“It turns out the critics were right. Plaintiffs have made the decision the centerpiece of attempts to defeat state bans on the sale of sex toys in Alabama, polygamy in Utah and adoptions by gay couples in Florida. So far the challenges have been unsuccessful. But plaintiffs are still trying, even using Lawrence to challenge laws against incest.”

Note those words carefully, penned in 2007 in the left-leaning Time: “It turns out the critics were right.”  (See further my video pointing to Scalia’s prescience.)

Obviously, a strong argument against any lawful sexual or romantic connection between family members is that it opens the door to further abuses. In other words, the moral, legal, and societal wall against incestuous relationships helps remove the possibility of such relationships (and sexual unions). They are off limits. They are taboo. They are forbidden. Take down that wall, and anything can happen.

That’s why challenges to incest remain more marginal than mainstream.

But make no mistake about it. If marriage could be so radically redefined so as to remove the requirement of a man and a woman, it can be further redefined to include family members or to expand the number from two.

Not surprisingly, when I participated in a written debate in 2014 on the quickly defunct Debate Out website, I was the only one of 5 participants who argued that consensual adult incest should remain illegal. (Two of the participants didn’t like the idea of consensual adult incest but felt the government had no right to interfere; the other two operated on the “love is love” principle.)

Interestingly, of all those interviewed for the debate, I was the only one who emphasized the importance of keeping social walls intact, quoting the famous dictum of G. K. Chesterton, “Do not remove a fence until you know why it was put up in the first place.” The interviewer, herself a liberal lesbian, found the argument very interesting, having heard it from me for the very first time.

Writing about Chesterton’s dictum (and quoting Chesterton in full context), an FS blog noted that, “Second-order thinking is the practice of not just considering the consequences of our decisions but also the consequences of those consequences. . . . Second-order thinking will get you extraordinary results, and so will learning to recognize when other people are using second-order thinking.”

Conversely, it is the lack of second-order thinking, a direct result of the sexual revolution that downplayed long-term consequences, that helped get us into our current cultural mess.

As for the case before the New York court, let this serve as a further wake-up call in the midst of our ongoing moral decline. What on earth could be coming next?